I do like my grey Kuhl pants but I wanted black, because well, duh. I decided to try these PrAna Monarch Convertible pants since they were on sale. I doubt I’ll ever convert them to shorts, but well, they were on sale. As you can see the pockets are again shallow. My whole hand doesn’t fit in the front pocket. However, there is a zipper pocket on the thigh, that’s kind of nice. The fit is okay, I’m a bit in-between a 10 and a 12 in PrAna gear but they are comfy enough in the 12 to wear as regular pants which I do often.